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Friendship is Fickle by HareTrinity Friendship is Fickle by HareTrinity
Did most of this a week ago as practice. Picture will be moved to Scraps. It was wonky from the lines and I'd really have to start again to fix it all. There's a comic to go with it that sadly didn't come out much better: [link]

Starting to feel like I'm the only DAer who didn't like One Bad Apple. To be honest I enjoyed most of it, despite how clichéd it was, but not the ending. Not the ending at ALL.

Babs spent her whole visit hanging out with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon, at the very least pretending to be their friend. The episode ended with her scaring them into mud even though, as far as we know, they'd been good friends to Babs: They shared their little rump-bump with her, they hung out with her for the visit, and unless they'd taken up train spotting it seems that they came to the station to say goodbye to her.

I'm not saying DT & SS aren't stuck-up little so-and-sos, and I know know lots of people wanted to see them dunked in mud, but they didn't deserve it from someone they thought was their friend.

I was bullied by my friends in school and it was horrible. NO ONE deserves that. And YES, I know it's possible that DT & SS didn't really like Babs, but WE DON'T KNOW THAT, and even if they didn't there's still no excuse for Babs turning on them so suddenly, ESPECIALLY given the episode's messages. I think it's in most ways worse than what Babs did to the CMC at the start because at that point (a) she hadn't really spent time with the CMC and (b) she apparently didn't know any better.

Ironically enough, one thing I DID learn from being bullied is that a bully's friends often have greater influence over them than adults, and if one of the bully's friends vouches for you then the bully themselves will probably back off. This was the perfect time for Babs to be honest with DT & SS instead of turning straight to intimidation tactics. That or for the CMC to question DT & SS on their motives (which could have had a stuck-up response and ended up with DT & SS accidentally storming off the platform all by themselves).

Instead, moments after we'd been told that bullies are people too, we had two little kids being portrayed as acceptable targets with no signs of it being deliberate irony.

You do not have to dislike the episode. I'm not trying to ruin it for you. I just personally have problems with how the ending was handled and hope other people can understand my points.

And I guess if you're a Babs fan then here's a pic with her drinking milkshake. Yay.
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Yonderness Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, I completely understand your view on that episode. I actually had the same thoughts about it but you worded them perfectly. 

Diamond Tiara always bugged me, because we never get to see her being nice! Bullies are rarely so mean that they have no friends, and she has a great friend! (Silver Spoon.) They probably do lots together and are completely nice! I also always disliked the "mean rich kid" stereotype. MLP (the show) was doing a great job of not stereotyping, until Diamond Tiara. 
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Aye, it would be nice if they fleshed her out a bit more. At least Twilight Time did it a little?

And yay for shared dislikes! :) It's nice to know other people understand what I mean!
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Yonderness Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I actually didn't start watching MLP untill the end of this past summer, and so I have been using Netflix and am only at the end of Season three. So I haven't seen that one yet :D
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, okay. :)
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ilovesonik Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014  Student Digital Artist
now that I think about it, you're totally right o-o That was really mean of Babs to just suddenly turn on them. Even though they were bullies, they were still her friends. Rather than just turning on them because they were mean to her other friends, the episode's meaning could have been so much better if she tried to get them to all be friends. Rather than teaching a lesson not to bully others, it would also teach a way more useful lesson of how to deal with split friends. A lot of people get torn between having cool friends, and being friends with the 'nerdy' people. The episode could have been way better if Babs, someone who understood both of the groups of friends, tried to get them to understand each other, so that they could all be friends. That would have been way better
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly what I was try to say! I hadn't thought about it for "cool"/"uncool" friend groups angle, but you're right that it would have shown that too.
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watcher25 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
super point, after you brought it up, I think it would have made a great possible avenue to redemption, even a better episode like you suggested,

I'd personally like to have as few reasons to dislike those ponies as much as possible

though maybe is sadly stands to say that some just won't learn...?
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you! And aye, I prefer it when shows try to give ALL the characters depth, it just makes it more fun to watch.

I'll hold out hope that, if FIM continues for long enough, they'll end up giving all the secondary characters more depth. :) It wouldn't be the first series to eventually give in and make the "generic bully" characters more likeable!
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semerl Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2013
>I'm not saying DT & SS aren't stuck-up so-and-sos

Would you say that Babs is a stuck up so-and-so as well?
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hm, not sure... Maybe just defensive and/or with a sadistic streak? She didn't seem to consider herself better than others, just really lashed out (and seemed to enjoy it) when she felt weak. This said, I guess it's possible that she thinks she deserves to have a cutie mark and that those without are below her (despite the hypocrisy).
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