Starting to feel like I'm the only DAer who didn't like One Bad Apple. To be honest I enjoyed most of it, despite how clichéd it was, but not the ending. Not the ending at ALL.
Babs spent her whole visit hanging out with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon, at the very least pretending to be their friend. The episode ended with her scaring them into mud even though, as far as we know, they'd been good friends to Babs: They shared their little rump-bump with her, they hung out with her for the visit, and unless they'd taken up train spotting it seems that they came to the station to say goodbye to her.
I'm not saying DT & SS aren't stuck-up little so-and-sos, and I know know lots of people wanted to see them dunked in mud, but they didn't deserve it from someone they thought was their friend.
I was bullied by my friends in school and it was horrible. NO ONE deserves that. And YES, I know it's possible that DT & SS didn't really like Babs, but WE DON'T KNOW THAT, and even if they didn't there's still no excuse for Babs turning on them so suddenly, ESPECIALLY given the episode's messages. I think it's in most ways worse than what Babs did to the CMC at the start because at that point (a) she hadn't really spent time with the CMC and (b) she apparently didn't know any better.
Ironically enough, one thing I DID learn from being bullied is that a bully's friends often have greater influence over them than adults, and if one of the bully's friends vouches for you then the bully themselves will probably back off. This was the perfect time for Babs to be honest with DT & SS instead of turning straight to intimidation tactics. That or for the CMC to question DT & SS on their motives (which could have had a stuck-up response and ended up with DT & SS accidentally storming off the platform all by themselves).
Instead, moments after we'd been told that bullies are people too, we had two little kids being portrayed as acceptable targets with no signs of it being deliberate irony.
You do not have to dislike the episode. I'm not trying to ruin it for you. I just personally have problems with how the ending was handled and hope other people can understand my points.
And I guess if you're a Babs fan then here's a pic with her drinking milkshake. Yay.
and, for the record, I was bullied for 13 years myself by just about everyone but my family. I've felt every kind of pain bullying can produce. I've even considered suicide in the past. (but those thoughts are WAY behind me now) but the thing is, scaring them the way she did pales in comparison to what DT and SS did to many others. what they said to Scootaloo in the episode where they were auditioning for that part of the Equestria games being case in point. what they said put Scootaloo through some very serious mental pain that almost ended everything her and her friends had worked so hard to achieve, including their friendship.
Now, no. I'm not saying stooping to their level is a good thing. But, like my dad would always tell me, there's an exception to every rule. after everything DT and SS had put the CMC through and everything they had convinced Babs to do to them under what is, in her view, were false pretenses I honestly can't blame Babs.
Just my opinion though.
I was bullied and had suicidal thoughts too, I even started having breakdowns in my early teens, but among the most emotionally painful bullying I had was when my best friend at the time decided she'd rather be popular and joined in with them. Babs turning on the CMC shortly after meeting them didn't take me back to that, but Babs turning on DT & SS so coldly after spending most of her visit with them? That did. Probably didn't help that Apple Bloom has 3+ close friends (I'm including Twist), whereas DT seems to have just the 1, so DT looks a lot lonelier to me even if she doesn't show it.
Also, in terms of writing it seems sloppy to have a "bullies are not acceptable targets" ep than ends on the punchline of bullies being acceptable targets, not to mention showing a character's reformed by having her again show her allegiance by acting aggressively towards the other group.
These days I often find myself wondering if we too often teach kids that they need to "defeat" their bullies. Maybe some people won't stop any other way, but I learnt first hand in school that sometimes being nice to bullies meant they'd be nicer to me, sometimes even getting their friends to lay off a little. For all the theories I've heard on bullies, I wonder how many are just bored or getting carried away, or could be reigned in by non-bully friends. Maybe encouraging more of a team mentality would help matters better than telling victims not to fight back (ugh, ego-killer) and having teachers tell bullies not to bully (I've never seen that work).
Diamond Tiara always bugged me, because we never get to see her being nice! Bullies are rarely so mean that they have no friends, and she has a great friend! (Silver Spoon.) They probably do lots together and are completely nice! I also always disliked the "mean rich kid" stereotype. MLP (the show) was doing a great job of not stereotyping, until Diamond Tiara.
And yay for shared dislikes! It's nice to know other people understand what I mean!
I'd personally like to have as few reasons to dislike those ponies as much as possible
though maybe is sadly stands to say that some just won't learn...?
Would you say that Babs is a stuck up so-and-so as well?
Yea, I noticed that.
And Diamond was friendlyish, to them in the Ponyville Confidential episode, I honestly think that would of been a great point along with this episode for some sort of character Growth for her..... hmmm. Silver wasn't in this one either.
Then a writer friend of mine came up with this, if I remember right was set during the Ponyville Confidential episode. Makes a lot of sense, and gives some serious indept thought into Diamond's personality in my option.
Yea, I think most people that give her any consideration normally has her being raised by just her dad.
My head-canon for her, has her mother walking out on them when she was very little. Young enough not to really remember to much about her mom and her dad doing his very best to raise her, but also being swamped with work most of the time so he rarely has much free time to spend with her. Which is why she looks up to him so much when he can spend time with her.
Hehe, ya that is pretty good. "Gold Digger" sounds perfect.
Diamond Tiara in my story I haven't expanded to, she became friends with Noi after seeing Silver Spoon get more and more bullish.
Silver Spoon though, I have expanded on more. Her parents are blacksmiths and silversmiths, she took up the trade as well. Her little sister I named Silver Blade also took up the trade of smithing career. Her specialty is counterfeit Unicorn Assassin Blades. Which only specialist in the royal guard are allowed to own.
And yeah, KCaFO was pretty awful, though I kept watching. I'm fairly sure FIM'll have more good eps later, it certainly can't get much worse!
and Discord is supposed to be a monster, total and absolute evil.
Anywho, I'm sure Babs'll have chance to redeem herself in my eyes, but I won't get my hopes up until she gets another ep where she's a main part (AFR was more of a cameo for her).